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Post by rcrimson on Jun 17, 2014 20:57:11 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone has noticed but all the usfl sites are locked on facebook.
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Post by rcrimson on Jun 17, 2014 21:41:45 GMT -5
Yep, major battle fixing to take place on the USFL front. Winner gets the name. Stay tuned to the court channel.
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Post by broncofan on Jun 17, 2014 22:06:06 GMT -5
Considering they don't control the team names I wonder what the value of the brand really is at this point. The USFL has been dead almost thirty years.
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Post by hayes on Jun 17, 2014 22:50:49 GMT -5
USFL filed TM infringement with Facebook. Facebook shut down Dwyer's "New United States Football League" page. The USFL owns the TM's including Dwyer's, but Dwyer went ahead and is using it anyway. USFL is protecting their investor's interests and intellectual property. In retaliation Matt Brown of Brown Consulting ( He outed the A11FL business plan if you remember). Matt tried like hell to get the USFL to hire him, but they said no thanks. So Matt went over to Michael Dwyer and He was offered a job with him as a consultant. Matt fancies himself as a big shot football dude because ehe wrote a football business plan of his own that he has tried to push unsuccessfully. Anyway, Dwyer got Matt to file a TM infringement against the USFL who legally owns the TM's, and Facebook shut down all the related USFL sites. Even "USFL Today" which is a historical page for the USFL and is fan based. Dwyer cannot get over that he does not own the TM for 'The New United States Football League' any more. Dwyer is still threatening to take the USFL to court like he was all last year and still has not done it because he knows he has nothing to stand on.
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Post by rcrimson on Jun 18, 2014 23:57:45 GMT -5
Seems to me that if someone promised to pay me for the rights to a name and embezzled money to pay for it and I was ordered to repay the money back, then that to me would say that no transaction was made. Now if Dwyer received the money and the money trail shows this and he didn't have to pay it back then he doesn't own it. The courts will figure this out. If Dwyer is on here, if you have the funding, the locations, and the teams, why not just change the name of the league and move forward.
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Post by hayes on Jun 19, 2014 10:24:07 GMT -5
The Dwyer deal with Cuadra was not a money deal. Dwyer was to get the first rights to an LA team, and then he had to raise the capital for that team. He was also to get a 2.5% stake in the USFL. Once Jaime Cuadra was caught for embezzlement, Dwyer thought he would get "The New United States Football League" TM back, But that was not the way the contract was written that he signed. EndZone Sports Management also owned the TM for The USFL, which was never owned by Dwyer. The current USFL is just holding Dwyer's old TM as intellectual property. The old USFL ownership was a franchise operation, and the new ownership is a single entity, which means no USFL LA team for Dwyer and no ownership stake in Touchdown Management LLC whatsoever.
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Post by rcrimson on Jun 21, 2014 20:48:20 GMT -5
Cudera's United States Fundraiser League was suppose to be completely owned by the USFL. There were never going to be individual owners. Only Dwyer was going to have individual owners. Even in the court papers it shows how much he purchased the league from Dwyer Which later turned out to be about the same amount that was embezzled. You can't say that money didn't exchange hands because it is in the records of the company. There are 9 months before kickoff. We will see what happens. I personally do not see the USFL getting the funds they need before kickoff. There are supposedly 8 teams that currently have no name. There are 8 teams that have no cities to play in. There are 8 teams that have no players, no staff, and no coaches. There will have to be a period of time where the league will have to be self sustaining. This means they will have to pay people before the league even starts. You need to get a coach first and let him pick his staff. Then you have to get players that match what the coach is wanting to do. Then you have to make sure since they will have winter practice that none of the players will be called up to the NFL. All this can't take place in less than 7 months. That gives the USFL less than 2 months to get their money and do all of this. Good luck to the United States Fundraising League
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 21:46:38 GMT -5
Cudera's United States Fundraiser League was suppose to be completely owned by the USFL. There were never going to be individual owners. Only Dwyer was going to have individual owners. Even in the court papers it shows how much he purchased the league from Dwyer Which later turned out to be about the same amount that was embezzled. You can't say that money didn't exchange hands because it is in the records of the company. There are 9 months before kickoff. We will see what happens. I personally do not see the USFL getting the funds they need before kickoff. There are supposedly 8 teams that currently have no name. There are 8 teams that have no cities to play in. There are 8 teams that have no players, no staff, and no coaches. There will have to be a period of time where the league will have to be self sustaining. This means they will have to pay people before the league even starts. You need to get a coach first and let him pick his staff. Then you have to get players that match what the coach is wanting to do. Then you have to make sure since they will have winter practice that none of the players will be called up to the NFL. All this can't take place in less than 7 months. That gives the USFL less than 2 months to get their money and do all of this. Good luck to the United States Fundraising League I will make one attempt to clarify a few things but do not intend to engage in a continued back and forth simply rehashing the same nonsense. I suspect you may be the same person I just banned from our official USFL Facebook page (an action we don't take lightly) because of your continued "trolling," tiresome revision of old history, and inaccurate portrayal of the current state of affairs, which is pure fantasy. When we gained control of the league last year from the previous ownership, we immediately realized the league was not going to meet the previously announced 2014 kick-off date. As such, we announced that it would have to be postponed until 2015. We also noted - and have consistently stated since that time - that we would not launch an under-capitalized league. We also revamped our website that has this note on the front page: The USFL is off to a fresh new start.
On August 1, 2013 the organization was restructured, and is now owned and managed by a group with extensive football managerial experience at the NFL, arena and college levels, as well as general managerial, legal and financial expertise.
While we are virtually starting over in some respects, the new management team has been hard at work since the beginning of 2013 conducting research, developing the vision and concept for the league, establishing the internal operational structure, creating realistic financial forecasts for the league, and developing the business and capitalization plans.
The United States Football League is open for business under new management, and ready to move this exciting new league forward. The current focus is attracting sufficient investment in the USFL to fund operations. Of necessity, much of the fundraising effort will be conducted behind the scenes. We ask for your continued patience as we pursue this vital next step. We will report what we can when we can. Once we attract the first wave of funding, we will be in a position to begin selecting team cities, hiring local management and staffing up to put teams together and commence operations.
The USFL is headquartered in San Diego, CA.We launched our fundraising effort after the new year, and we are still working through it. One of our other consistent messages for the past few months has been that we intend to raise enough capital to operate the league for several years even if it loses money to allow it to stabilize and gain traction. As you might imagine, this is not an insignificant amount of money, and cannot be raised overnight. As we've admitted in recent months on our Facebook page, announcing the 2015 date when we had to postpone kick-off was a mistake. We simply should have postponed without announcing any new date. Nevertheless, we've also stated recently that we will see where things stand towards the end of summer and determine whether or not 2015 is still achievable. As of now our timeline allows that to happen, but we absolutely will not kick-off before we have all our funding in place, and before all things are in order to deliver a football product worthy of the USFL name and of the vision we have for our league. Nothing above is new news. It's what we've been saying for the past six months. You are free to believe it or otherwise continue wasting your own time and that of anyone that wants to listen to your nonsense. In the meantime we will keep moving forward.
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Post by rcrimson on Jun 21, 2014 22:14:49 GMT -5
And there goes free speech. Banning people who weren't even a part of the page. I must have hit a nerve of truth. My post about Dwyer possibly owning another league that has the rights to the old USFL team names was deleted by both groups. I find this intriguing. Also the idea of not enough time for 2015 start is also ignored by both groups. I personally believe all groups that claim to start in 2015 and don't need to all be deemed frauds.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 22:42:46 GMT -5
And there goes free speech. Banning people who weren't even a part of the page. I must have hit a nerve of truth. My post about Dwyer possibly owning another league that has the rights to the old USFL team names was deleted by both groups. I find this intriguing. Also the idea of not enough time for 2015 start is also ignored by both groups. I personally believe all groups that claim to start in 2015 and don't need to all be deemed frauds. We have nothing against free speech but rather we don't want our Facebook page cluttered up with nonsense. There has been a lot of commentary critical of us; we are fine with that. And we continue to engage in dialogue with many who don't agree with us, doubt we'll ever succeed, or don't even like us. Many of the fans on our Facebook page get turned off by the heated tone of the discussions. If those discussions are based in fact then we will participate and answer questions posed to us, but we have neither the time nor the energy to waste on rumor-mongering, falsehoods and nonsense. You certainly have not hit any nerve of truth. We are aware of Dwyer's new league. It appears he may be working together with Matt Brown on it. There is already the creation of a website: www.myasfl.com. We have no knowledge of them owning the old team names. Again, one of our oft-repeated messages these past few months is that because most of those names are associated with cities that have NFL or MLB teams, they will not work for us. Many fans have fond memories of the original teams associated with those names, and we only hope that whoever ultimately uses them does so in a manner that preserves their positive recognition. I did not intend to ignore "the idea of not enough time for 2015 start." Perhaps I was not clear enough when I stated " As we've admitted in recent months on our Facebook page, announcing the 2015 date when we had to postpone kick-off was a mistake. We simply should have postponed without announcing any new date. Nevertheless, we've also stated recently that we will see where things stand towards the end of summer and determine whether or not 2015 is still achievable. As of now our timeline allows that to happen, but we absolutely will not kick-off before we have all our funding in place, and before all things are in order to deliver a football product worthy of the USFL name and of the vision we have for our league." So, to clarify, we will see where things stand at the end of this summer. If we determine that 2015 is not feasible, we will not kick-off at that time.
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