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Post by djfrankie on Mar 26, 2015 11:08:54 GMT -5
So White snowballed him, big deal. It is a big deal, actually.
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Post by lenny on Mar 28, 2015 2:46:41 GMT -5
So White snowballed him, big deal. It is a big deal, actually. Do you really think the NAFL has a chance in hell? Let's be honest, for all the mistakes they made, if the UFL couldn't make it work, no else is.
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Post by djfrankie on Mar 29, 2015 0:00:42 GMT -5
It is a big deal, actually. Do you really think the NAFL has a chance in hell? That's not what I'm talking about, and not what is a big deal. It's a big deal when someone playing at being a journalist allows themselves to be snowballed. And then claims they don't have to press anybody because they were "so forthcoming." You and I both know the NAFL has no chance. But there are (demonstrably) a lot of players out there working at Lowe's who believe it (and they) have a chance. There are very likely other people who might get sucked into this who aren't savvy enough to spot it as a blatant non-starter from the get-go and who might part with money because of White's claims. They're 99% sure to never ever play a game. But there's also more than a 0% chance people will get hurt.
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Post by callmeclemens on Mar 29, 2015 8:55:04 GMT -5
Do you really think the NAFL has a chance in hell? That's not what I'm talking about, and not what is a big deal. It's a big deal when someone playing at being a journalist allows themselves to be snowballed. And then claims they don't have to press anybody because they were "so forthcoming." You and I both know the NAFL has no chance. But there are (demonstrably) a lot of players out there working at Lowe's who believe it (and they) have a chance. There are very likely other people who might get sucked into this who aren't savvy enough to spot it as a blatant non-starter from the get-go and who might part with money because of White's claims. They're 99% sure to never ever play a game. But there's also more than a 0% chance people will get hurt. You have no idea the content of the information I have nor the scope of people I've talked to. Also me praising Mr. White has no impact on my thoughts on the league especially whether or not they'll succeed. But please do carry on, you bring sooooo much to the table here.
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Post by djfrankie on Apr 1, 2015 11:44:31 GMT -5
You have no idea the content of the information I have nor the scope of people I've talked to. Correct, I don't. Which is why I've said nothing about the content of your information or the scope of the people you've talked to. I've taken issue with you saying you didn't feel the need to press people. Because if you're going to play Pretend Journalist, you need to press people. That's all I've said. You're adorable. Struck a nerve, did I? Let's see what you "bring to the table," Citizen Journalist. Let's see this hard-hitting expose. Oh, that's right, you don't hit hard. Because you're a fanboy.
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Post by callmeclemens on Apr 2, 2015 12:59:43 GMT -5
You have no idea the content of the information I have nor the scope of people I've talked to. Correct, I don't. Which is why I've said nothing about the content of your information or the scope of the people you've talked to. I've taken issue with you saying you didn't feel the need to press people. Because if you're going to play Pretend Journalist, you need to press people. That's all I've said. You're adorable. Struck a nerve, did I? Let's see what you "bring to the table," Citizen Journalist. Let's see this hard-hitting expose. Oh, that's right, you don't hit hard. Because you're a fanboy. Nerve? No, I'm just curious what insight/information you bring to the forum? As far as being a "fanboy" check my post history, I'm a fan of football sure, but I have in the past been relentless in pursuit of facts. Just as I have done before with Brandi and the league, when I'm done thoroughly fact checking everything will be posted via blog and a few media outlets this time. White's a forward guy, that doesn't mean I didn't contact every partner I could posted to the website.
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Post by callmeclemens on Apr 2, 2015 13:04:55 GMT -5
I'm also more the willing to take questions about NAFL, NSFL, old ownership USFL to offer up some of my research, though people seem more interested in being negative about it.
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Post by djfrankie on Apr 21, 2015 18:14:57 GMT -5
I have in the past been relentless in pursuit of facts. Soooooo...now that the NAFL has not only pushed back a year, but they apparently knew for the last month they were going to do so, how do you feel about having been played by the forthcoming Mr. White? See, this is why journalists press sources. Why they're ACTUALLY "relentless in pursuit of facts." Because people will play them. The way White played you. Looking forward to reading what you wrote. It'll be even funnier now that we know the ending.
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Post by rcrimson on Apr 21, 2015 22:36:18 GMT -5
The NAFL has done just what every other Dog and Pony show before it has...scammed the masses. We've already seen a league play without money. We've had another league just said away without even a goodbye. We've had a leagues former owner sell his league to another guy who stole money from his own business to try and get it started only to have new owners try and start the same league at least 3 times only to say they don't have the money. Now we have the NAFL who's Facebook page has been in existence since 2011 so they are heading for 6 years. They all say they "apologize" for the sore feelings yet we still believe them and continue to give them a pass. I wish a goverent inquiry could be done on these leagues and let's have some people held to the fire on if they are actually going to start a league or not. I am challenging all of these leagues with this. Start in 2016 or fold. You all have been doing the same thing for too long now and it is time to either play ball or give up it up already. It is plain and simple...if you can't do it in 2015, what in reality is one more year going to do?
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Post by callmeclemens on Apr 22, 2015 7:45:04 GMT -5
I have in the past been relentless in pursuit of facts. Soooooo...now that the NAFL has not only pushed back a year, but they apparently knew for the last month they were going to do so, how do you feel about having been played by the forthcoming Mr. White? See, this is why journalists press sources. Why they're ACTUALLY "relentless in pursuit of facts." Because people will play them. The way White played you. Looking forward to reading what you wrote. It'll be even funnier now that we know the ending. Again you haven't any idea of what I have. I have a few things exposing White as a fraud, and NAFL as a joke. I have screen caps of White not realizing he was sending messages from his own profile pretending to be other people. I have email transcripts from Mr. White to player personnel. People keep bashing what Im trying to do on little to no info, which I'm urging people to ask about for the same of addressing specific questions. At this point I'm willing to do a straight up Q&A here
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