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Post by broncofan on May 17, 2014 16:03:55 GMT -5
They cancelled their first pre-season game. The Coaching Staff quits. And people want to know what happened. I would say ask "BigTimeHines" but that too would offer no answers. So you want to know what happened. Control issues is the answer. A source close to the BearCats said the owner called Chicago draftees and told them not to play in Chicago and to play on his hometown team in Detroit. Further to that, during the first training camp, the owner showed up over 6 hours late with the equipment. Instead of coming in a night before he left that morning and ran into difficulties. The staff ran the conditioning test and cut a player for not making the time. The owner questioned the cut and wanted to run the conditioning test a second time where the coaching staff put their foot down and said no. End of Story, Staff Released. For sticking up for what was right. This would be why one owner should not own multiple teams. Conflict of interest will run rampant in the league. If they want to succeed, they should put the teams up for sale and truly create an independent league. It seems there is a few versions of this story going around. First, the preseason game against Detroit was not "cancelled," Detroit ended up playing Southern Michigan (Final Score: 7-0 for Detroit). Chicago could not get transportation to Detroit to play the Cougars. Is this Mr. Hines fault or should each Team GM be responsible for providing adequate means of transportation for the teams?? The Second version of this story is the Bearcats coaching staff was indeed fired. Quentin Hines showed up an hour or so late, but nonetheless after the Bearcats staff took it upon themselves to run the conditioning test. Apparently, the Bearcats staff told Hines that not a single person failed the test. As the CEO of the League, Hines ran the other 3 conditioning tests (So Mich, Detroit and Akron) and did not want anyone doing anything not under his supervision (for insurance purposes. If someone happened to get hurt, or hospitalized, running an NFL conditioning test, he wanted to be there, because he is the one responsible.) As stated before the coaches did not agree with Mr. Hines decision and thus were let go. Let's assume the team GM should be responsible for finding transportation to the games. So we can easily go to the RPFL website and see who that person is for Chicago. And we find it is... TBA. So Chicago does not have a GM. And who do we blame that on? The owner of the team maybe?
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Post by lionfan15 on May 17, 2014 18:54:48 GMT -5
It seems there is a few versions of this story going around. First, the preseason game against Detroit was not "cancelled," Detroit ended up playing Southern Michigan (Final Score: 7-0 for Detroit). Chicago could not get transportation to Detroit to play the Cougars. Is this Mr. Hines fault or should each Team GM be responsible for providing adequate means of transportation for the teams?? The Second version of this story is the Bearcats coaching staff was indeed fired. Quentin Hines showed up an hour or so late, but nonetheless after the Bearcats staff took it upon themselves to run the conditioning test. Apparently, the Bearcats staff told Hines that not a single person failed the test. As the CEO of the League, Hines ran the other 3 conditioning tests (So Mich, Detroit and Akron) and did not want anyone doing anything not under his supervision (for insurance purposes. If someone happened to get hurt, or hospitalized, running an NFL conditioning test, he wanted to be there, because he is the one responsible.) As stated before the coaches did not agree with Mr. Hines decision and thus were let go. Let's assume the team GM should be responsible for finding transportation to the games. So we can easily go to the RPFL website and see who that person is for Chicago. And we find it is... TBA. So Chicago does not have a GM. And who do we blame that on? The owner of the team maybe? In that case I would agree with you 100% but Chicago does have a GM, he was present at the RPFL draft and was NOT on the coaching staff so I assume he was not let go, OR maybe he was let go and he scrapped all the transportation plans etc. before he left. I am not speaking with 100% assurance when I say this but according to sources, the former coaching staff did not leave as easy and as "nicely" as their Facebook post implies... But again, not 100% sure on anything. I wonder how Akron played today, and Southern Michigan, having played their 2nd game in 2 days.
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Post by broncofan on May 17, 2014 20:40:39 GMT -5
Let's assume the team GM should be responsible for finding transportation to the games. So we can easily go to the RPFL website and see who that person is for Chicago. And we find it is... TBA. So Chicago does not have a GM. And who do we blame that on? The owner of the team maybe? In that case I would agree with you 100% but Chicago does have a GM, he was present at the RPFL draft and was NOT on the coaching staff so I assume he was not let go, OR maybe he was let go and he scrapped all the transportation plans etc. before he left. I am not speaking with 100% assurance when I say this but according to sources, the former coaching staff did not leave as easy and as "nicely" as their Facebook post implies... But again, not 100% sure on anything. I wonder how Akron played today, and Southern Michigan, having played their 2nd game in 2 days. I was wondering about Akron vs Southern Michigan myself. Did you go to the Detroit, Southern Michigan game? If so, how many fans were there and what was the level of play?
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Post by lionfan15 on May 17, 2014 22:36:10 GMT -5
In that case I would agree with you 100% but Chicago does have a GM, he was present at the RPFL draft and was NOT on the coaching staff so I assume he was not let go, OR maybe he was let go and he scrapped all the transportation plans etc. before he left. I am not speaking with 100% assurance when I say this but according to sources, the former coaching staff did not leave as easy and as "nicely" as their Facebook post implies... But again, not 100% sure on anything. I wonder how Akron played today, and Southern Michigan, having played their 2nd game in 2 days. I was wondering about Akron vs Southern Michigan myself. Did you go to the Detroit, Southern Michigan game? If so, how many fans were there and what was the level of play? There was a good showing for a preseason game, the stands were pretty full and a lot of people standing. Its tough to say how many people, I would guess 300ish maybe more. If this picks up and this league really gets promoted, the Cougars at least are going to have big big crowds. The level of play in my opinion was much higher than that of semi-pro.... Its no NFL or CFL by any means but it was fun to watch. The Cougars have a strong squad, especially the defence. The Mustangs did a great job of keeping in the game and avoiding what could have been a lopsided game in favor of Detroit.
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Post by gatek99 on May 18, 2014 10:12:32 GMT -5
Remember, the GM has to use the Money available to him...he may not of had any
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Post by gatek99 on May 18, 2014 10:16:45 GMT -5
Also just read on the Akron page that they are looking for players and the tryout fee is $200.
This is a professional league, dont you think they should be scouting for the guys they need?
Seems like they need the money to me.
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Post by bearcatboy on May 18, 2014 22:35:56 GMT -5
They cancelled their first pre-season game. The Coaching Staff quits. And people want to know what happened. I would say ask "BigTimeHines" but that too would offer no answers. So you want to know what happened. Control issues is the answer. A source close to the BearCats said the owner called Chicago draftees and told them not to play in Chicago and to play on his hometown team in Detroit. Further to that, during the first training camp, the owner showed up over 6 hours late with the equipment. Instead of coming in a night before he left that morning and ran into difficulties. The staff ran the conditioning test and cut a player for not making the time. The owner questioned the cut and wanted to run the conditioning test a second time where the coaching staff put their foot down and said no. End of Story, Staff Released. For sticking up for what was right. This would be why one owner should not own multiple teams. Conflict of interest will run rampant in the league. If they want to succeed, they should put the teams up for sale and truly create an independent league. He showed up after 2pm. Practice started at 8:30am. I may not be the best at math but that is more than "an hour or so" late. That is just downright unprofessional. I was there..... in person. On the field practicing with my team when he showed up Control problems will be control problems. Oh well. Hope the BearCats make it in the league this year. I don't think it was the coaches fault. They ran what they needed to run to get their own mini-camp under way.
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Post by broncofan on May 19, 2014 9:13:46 GMT -5
He showed up after 2pm. Practice started at 8:30am. I may not be the best at math but that is more than "an hour or so" late. That is just downright unprofessional. I was there..... in person. On the field practicing with my team when he showed up Control problems will be control problems. Oh well. Hope the BearCats make it in the league this year. I don't think it was the coaches fault. They ran what they needed to run to get their own mini-camp under way. Are you still a part of the team? And is there any word on your next game? It was scheduled for 5-26.
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Post by lionfan15 on May 19, 2014 9:30:01 GMT -5
Are you still a part of the team? And is there any word on your next game? It was scheduled for 5-26. Would also like to know this! Interested to see how Chicago will handle the first game with all of this going on.
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Post by lionfan15 on May 19, 2014 10:36:51 GMT -5
It seems the Former Chicago Bearcats coaching staff is in charge of the teams Facebook Page still, using it to seemingly differ players away from the leauge and bash on it.
Posted Recently... In response to a post saying "Any Word on the Team"
(Chicago Bearcats) Typical...southern Michigan played your game against Detroit on Friday and then they played Akron on Saturday...wow this league must think of you guys as garbage....completely uncalled for. But heck you guys started late with the coaching change...that's gotta be the reason, right Quentin Hines??...that one extra day of practice really makes a difference. File the unfair labor practice suit...You guys are employees of the RPFL!!!
I wouldn't take anything from this page as credible anymore, because they have no clue whats going on, being fired. I would expect to see a STRONG FIRED UP Chicago Team make their debut very soon.
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